We’re Considering Moving to Utah – Introducing the Karl Liberty Scorecard

It’s official, we’re considering moving to Utah. After living through the nightmare of the last few years, Americans are slowly realizing how much power both the federal and state government has over their lives. Whether it’s forcing two-year-olds to wear face masks or proposing vaccine passports to attend work or dine at a restaurant, it’s easy to see now how quickly the tyrannical and out-of-control measures got out of hand.

In terms of federal government overreach, there’s not much that the average person can do for immediate quick relief. For example, when the federal government mandated face masks on planes there wasn’t much that the ordinary Joe could do—they were forced to comply or not fly.

In regard to states, on the other hand, Americans can seek immediate relief simply by crossing the border from one state to the next. For example, recently New York treated their citizens like teenagers and issued a curfew as if they were parents scolding a troubled child. As a result, many citizens of New York seeking freedom fled to other states.

Our Journey to Find a Home – Moving to Utah

In early March 2022, we set out on a journey across the U.S. to find a new home state—we currently reside in Illinois. We’ll be spending the next year searching for the best place to live. We’ve narrowed down the list to these 10 states, which we’re getting really good vibes―in no particular order:

  1. North Dakota
  2. Florida
  3. Tennessee
  4. Idaho
  5. Montana
  6. Wyoming
  7. Arizona
  8. South Dakota
  9. Alabama
  10. Utah

Our First Stop – Utah

Of all the states, there’s little doubt that Utah has one of the most beautiful and dramatic landscapes. We explored the state for a few weeks back in May 2020 which is one of the main reasons why we’re considering moving to Utah. Overall, it was a wonderful experience.

Most people have no idea that there’s a replica house from the movie “Up” in Salt Lake City and people actually live in it!

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Thanks to the mainstream corporate media, many people believed that they were going to die from the deadly and mysterious virus. In fact, it’s kind of funny to think about how out of control some of our neighbors got—sitting at home looking out the window with two face masks on.

What’s not particularly amusing though is the number of people that took an experimental injection that was labeled as a “vaccine,” yet it offers no immune-generating characteristics or properties. So, the real questions are; why is it called a vaccine, and what the heck’s in it?

2020 – Those Were the Days

Regardless, the intense state of fear that was created allowed us to travel cheaply in 2020 and basically have America’s national parks to ourselves. For us, it truly was a blessing in disguise.

For example, when we hiked to Delicate Arch in Arches National Park in 2020 there were no more than 30 people. In 2022, the same trail had what appeared to be hundreds of people.

Back in 2020, we basically had the national parks to ourselves!

Sadly, due to the intense level of propaganda, there are still some people living in a state of panic and fear, aka mass formation psychosis. Realistically, normal folks don’t want to live near these possessed people, nor humor their insane behavior any longer—like us, they’re simply looking for normalcy.

General Sense of Utah

In short, once you venture out of Salt Lake City (SLC), Utah is a wonderful state. To illustrate, after opening up “Life in Utah – Utah’s Premier Lifestyle and Relocation Guide” published by the Salt Lake Chamber, Utah’s largest and longest-serving business association, we just about vomited.

Upon reading the opening messages from Governor Spencer Cox and Derek Miller, the President & C.E.O. of the Salt Lake Chamber and Downtown Alliance things seemed legit. Then, we got to the first article: “Striving Towards Equity & Belonging in Utah.”

Where’s the throw-up emoji when you need it? Articles like this don’t make moving to Utah very appealing.

The cover photo of the article is a group of people, of course, all wearing face masks. Below are a few snippets from the article:

  • “Utah strives towards equity, diversity, inclusion, and access (IDEA) and is committed to creating transformative frameworks that enable belonging and opportunity building.”
  • “Equity involves meeting people where they are and addressing the unique needs they have by understanding the barriers that prevent a level playing field to obtaining full and healthy lives.”
  • “Equity does not undermine equality, but by leading with it we can better achieve a thriving Utah for all.”

In regard to the last point, there is little doubt that equity DOES undermine equality. There is no equality when the government decides which groups or individuals are favored.

Word Salad Topped with Diversity Dressing

After reading the neoliberal word salad, the article goes on to celebrate the 2020 census and the “communities of color.” It’s always interesting to us that when modern liberals try to display how anti-racist they are, they just become exponentially more racist and divisive.

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help. – Ronald Reagan

Lastly, the article focuses on how the Utah government and adjoining agencies are going to make the “diverse populations” lives better—never explaining how exactly they’re going to do this.

Also, at no point, does the article bring up the obvious issues which we witnessed, such as drug addiction, prostitution, the homeless (some of which may be American veterans), and aggressive police presence—all along south State Street, SLC’s main strip.

Obviously, behind the scenes, most politicians generally go out of their way to create problems or at least make the current situation worse. Of course, this allows them to promote the answer to the problem(s) during their reelection campaign. Hence, you’re left with a city like Chicago, where no matter how much tax revenue increases, the outcome only gets worse.

Air Quality – Salt Lake City

It was a bit of shock to us to find out that the air quality in SLC is some of the worst in the world. We had no idea.

We woke up one morning to find the entire city covered in smog. It wasn’t cloudy like the day before (photo below), it was like dark greyish dust. Oddly enough, it was also extremely windy too.

We only had one day in SLC with blue skies, we used it to visit Bear River Migratory Bird Refuge and Golden Spike National Historic Site.

The amusing aspect of the frequent fog is that the aforementioned Salt Lake Chamber magazine states: “…the growing needs and achievement gaps that persist, such as the concentration of poor air quality in diverse communities and its connection to K-12 school absences.”

Hmm, people in diverse communities miss school due to the city’s poor air quality? From our experience, it sure feels like the entire city is suffering from the same low air quality, no matter what the skin color.

Our Experience in Utah

We spent about 1½ months touring the state, with the mindset that we could be moving to Utah. Nevertheless, much of our time was spent in Richfield, Utah.

Recently, Richfield was listed as one of the top 10 places to retire in Utah. This accolade, however, was also awarded to SLC, so take it with a grain of salt.

We’re overlooking the town of Richfield with the Sevier Plateau in the background.

Richfield is located in the majestic Sevier Valley and is considered the halfway point between Los Angeles and Denver. With a population near 7,000, it’s considered a midsize city in Utah and is the largest town for about 100 miles in any direction. For the record, the town never felt that small to us—it seemed like an ideal size.

Tip & Side Note: The police in Utah are extremely aggressive and prevalent. Do not speed.

What the town lacks in population it more than makes up in its stunning setting. Positioned in the heart of the Sevier Valley, the town sits alongside the Sevier Plateau on the east, with snow-covered peaks of up to 11,000 feet. On the western side, there are beautiful hills and mountains made of red sandstone. The awe-inspiring scenery would make moving to Utah an easy transition.

At nearly 9,000 feet, Fish Lake is about a 45-minute drive from Richfield.

Probably the number one activity in the town is to go ATVing in the surrounding hills. Locals have access to literally hundreds of miles of trails, and thousands if they can afford the fuel. If you’re moving to Utah, an ATV is a must!

Time in Richfield

We used our time in Utah to live like the locals. Richfield had a lovely small-time charm to it. Surprisingly, it reminded us of Croatia. It felt completely safe and small children walked alone to and from school without a care in the world—as it should be.

The highlight for us was the magical setting. The Sevier Valley reminded us of Paradise Valley from the TV show “1883.” It was easy for us to imagine early pioneers arriving here 150 years ago and saying, “Yes, this is it!” In short, the area has that much of a wow factor.

There was also a lovely 4-mile walking path, called the “Path of Positivity” that navigated along the western side of the town. We ended up enjoying it nearly every day.

Some Photos From Our Time in and Around Richfield

Overall, everything we needed was there but upscale aspects of life were missing. For example, there were no extravagant restaurants or fun nightlife. Basically, all of life’s necessities are there but variety is missing, which is exactly what you’d expect from a small town.

Essentially, we really began to let our minds wander and consider whether we could give up those luxurious aspects of life permanently in order to benefit from the allure of small-town living. Realistically, being extremely cash-poor we don’t eat out that much anyway and when we do it rarely lives up to expectations. As a result, we decided that we could adapt.

Pros and Cons of Life in Utah

Overall, from our experience people throughout Utah seemed genuinely friendly and normal, up until SLC. For example, we had a terrible experience where we suffered from discrimination while using Airbnb. Basically, the hosts insisted that guests receive experimental COVID-19 injections before reserving the accommodation. Of course, we said, “No thank you,” to that request.

To think we live in an age where someone wants to know your medical history before making a reservation is terrifying—and to think there are people out there to support this nonsense. Good Lord! Turn off CNN!!!

The pros of moving to Utah would be the amazing outdoor lifestyle, which includes access to five of the best national parks in the country. Generally, people seem to embrace an active lifestyle and it would do us some good to surround ourselves with a healthy community. Finally, the scenery is out-of-this-world, there are also so many nooks and crannies to get lost in that it would probably take a very long time to get bored.

Salt Lake City (SLC)

SLC is quite a bit more sprawling than we expected and felt, generally like any other big city. It is comprised of segregated neighborhoods based on income with people fleeing to the suburbs for quality schooling, safe communities, and normalcy.

However, it seems like it may be challenging to find normalcy when every tenth house needs to display a social justice warrior flag.

It sort of boggles our minds, when we clearly see the slow deterioration of neighborhoods and lifestyles in major American cities. Yet every day, urbanites believe they’re solving the problems of the world, making some significant impact, by participating in the most minimal way possible.

Some next-door neighbors may compete with Christmas lights, however, in SLC neighbors compete with social justice warrior flags. Sadly, it doesn’t appear that either one of these homes supports the transgender demisexual community. Racists!

We also find it confusing that on one hand, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints publicly seems to be embracing the LGBTQ+ agenda while on the other, they officially oppose same-sex marriage. Concerningly, if this is the case, then these two groups in SLC will never live in complete harmony.

Also, it’s important to note that while driving through Salt Lake City we listened to local talk radio. The host basically said that the Church’s agenda is to befriend members of the LGBTQ+ community because it’s only then that they will be able to teach them of their sin and convert them to the Church of Latter-day Saints. See? There’s always a catch (wink).

Bear River Migratory Bird Refuge Photos – Just Outside SLC

Nevertheless, there’s little doubt that the Latter-day Saints are in total control of Utah. For this reason, we don’t see ourselves wanting to live through the drama of the convergence of these two groups with polar opposite viewpoints.

In short, both in SLC and throughout the state, the predominant culture of the Latter-day Saints sort of kills the overall appeal of Utah.

Pictures From Utah’s Many Wonderful Parks

Latter-day Saints Culture

From our experience, while traveling through Utah, the Church of Jesus Christ is never in your face, it’s simply present. For example, at our apartment in Richfield, our lovely young hosts invited us to dinner. We suspected that they were Latter-day Saints but were unsure. For this reason, we kindly asked if it would be okay if we brought a bottle of red wine. They said it would be fine but wouldn’t be participating.

Being Balkan-American, we’re used to three to six-hour dinners that last all night, full of laughs, good wine, and shared stories.

Our hosts shared with us that they dreamed of going to Greece, so we brought feta cheese covered in toasted sesame seeds and topped with honey to inspire them. To give an idea of how fast the dinner was, we ate an appetizer, salad, and main course we still had about ¼ of the wine remaining.

After the meal was over, we both felt that it was time to depart.

A Latter-day Saints gathering feels similar to a family dinner where people eat and talk, and when the food is gone everyone goes their own separate way.

Free English Lesson: Utah Pioneers
Free English Lesson: Utah Pioneers

Maybe it’s all in our heads but it almost felt like our hosts didn’t know what to do next. Perhaps, they were in unfamiliar territory. If we’re moving to Utah, we need to find friends that enjoy a six-hour meal and understand the enjoyment of a shared bottle of good wine.

Latter-day Saints Wedding

We came upon a Latter-day Saints wedding while touring Heritage Park—it was the most glorious setting. However, there was no alcohol or dancing. To be blunt, it seemed boring.

To illustrate, the Just Married vehicle was decorated with plastic cups instead of the typical empty beer cans. Also, the weekday wedding was wrapping up around 5 p.m. and had almost no liveliness.

Putting plastic cups on the back of the Just Married vehicle.

We hate to say this, but there are certain aspects of the Church’s culture that feel like a Sci-Fi movie or even “The Handmaid’s Tale.” Realistically, it’s a culture that we’ll never fit into.

Karl Liberty Score by State

So, how does the Karl Liberty Score work? There are 10 categories, and each is judged on a scale of 1 to 10 with “1” being the worst, and “10” being the best. As a result, the highest possible score is 100 and should be the state that we should move to at the end of our journey.

Below are the categories along with a short description:

Cool Factor: The Cool Factor accounts for how jealous someone would be if they find out you were moving there or how mind-blowing it is when compared to other states.
Tyrannical Measures: Currently, how protected are citizens from both state and local government overreach?
Affordability: How affordable is the state to live in?
Entrepreneurship: Is it easy to start a new business in the state?
Access to Global Market/Diversity: Are there any good international restaurants or products easily available?
Sense of Community: How easily will new residents be welcomed into the community?
Outdoor Activities: Is there a wide range of outdoor activities available year-round and do residents take advantage of it?
Economic Stability: Does the government run a surplus or deficit? Is the unemployment rate low? Is there an opportunity for career growth?
Safety: Is it safe to walk around all times of the day and night? If out late, do you need to worry about safety or being harassed?
Woke Factor: Does the government or its citizens embrace a “woke” agenda?

Results – Are We Moving to Utah?

Below are the results of our experience in Utah.

The Karl Liberty Scorecard will help us decide if we’re moving to Utah!

The overall score for Utah is 65. Not too shabby. You’ll have to wait until we complete the rest of the results before we determine whether we’re moving to Utah.

Finally, we headed west when departing Utah and stopped at the Bonneville Salt Flats on our way to Nevada. Actually, we might be adding Nevada to our list of 10 states. There’s something very appealing about the state that we’d like to dig into.

We arrive, and of course, the salt flats are covered in water.

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5 thoughts on “We’re Considering Moving to Utah – Introducing the Karl Liberty Scorecard
  1. Yes, I’ve been to Las Cruces a handful of times, with one of them being a stay of several days to get some idea as to whether I would want to live there. My impression was generally favorable. I was told that the city doesn’t have any ‘bad areas’ but I’ve read that the crime rate is rather high (and that this is true of many cities in that state). I was also interested in NMSU, perhaps using it as sort of a ‘home base’ for lab work, etc. at the entomology museum; but one of the faculty members there basically told me “This is just an ag school–you should go to Albuquerque where the University of New Mexico is located.” So far I haven’t given much consideration to Albuquerque, as I’ve read that crime is a definite issue in that city, especially in the more affordable areas, and of course it has a colder climate because of its higher elevation and location farther north. BTW, I’ve thought of building a house that meets my needs better than most of what I see offered–I’m more impressed with commercial buildings and sometimes wish I could live in them, largely because of the overhead fluorescent lighting in most of the rooms. (Houses and apartments seem to be geared for lounging rather than working.)

  2. Have you been to Las Cruces before? Amazing, amazing city! We will be revisiting Tucson soon, which we are excited about. We were there on a “Route 66 layover,” while waiting for some of the C19 commotion to settle down in California before we crossed from AZ to Cal in 2020. Taiwan is truly a fabulous country. Agree, that sadly the safey and future there is uncertain. BTW, we will be writing an overview for every state we explore just like this one.

  3. Thanks, Audrey; in turn I enjoy your articles. I’m in SW Ohio right now–with this being the 6th state in which I’ve lived, all being in the eastern 4th of the US. I’ll be 70 in a couple weeks, and have been considering various places in which to live, mostly in the SW part of the US (or possibly overseas). My criteria are somewhat different from yours, particularly regarding food and dining. I’ve been considering Davis CA, Las Cruces NM, Tucson AZ, and Prescott AZ in addition to St George UT. I’ve given serious thought to Taiwan but of course its future is uncertain these days.

    In any case, I’m looking forward to your future articles about the other states on your list!

  4. Bob, we stayed in Cedar City for a few days, using it as a base to explore some of the National Parks. We rented a lovely Airbnb on the property of a nice Utah family. It was small and quaint. St. George, however, is quickly becoming a huge retirement hub. It is a popular due to its location, offering a cooler, more comfortable environment. And yes–it has a large relocation population from California. It would be worth exploring to see first-hand what the vibe is there. Last, our hosts were amazing! We would definitely spend time with them again given the opportunity. However, we are looking at this strictly as a relocation plan because we are desperately trying to find “our tribe” and a new community that we can easily merge into. Finding a community is essential for us. On a side note, we met an amazing older Polish gentleman in Richfield who shared with us that he seeking out a specific property for sale in a strong Latter-day Saints community in Utah. In trying to secure this property, he was turned away, with no follow up on his phone calls, appointments, etc. He communicated that he felt he was denied entry into this neighborhood because he was an outsider and clearly not part of The church. It is sad to say, but apparently the shunning works both ways. Just food for thought—– Thanks again for commenting. We see and read all of your feedback.

  5. I find this interesting because I’ve contemplated moving to Utah. Have you ever visited, or have any thoughts about, St. George or perhaps Cedar City. I recall seeing something (on YouTube, I believe) to the effect that people from California are moving to at least the former, driving up prices.

    I also recall a comment that if one is not a member of LDS, s/he is somewhat shunned socially. I don’t drink alcohol, so I wouldn’t be at odds with LDS at least on that count. It appears from your video that your hosts accepted you other than not sharing your bottle of wine.

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